Since the singularity confinement criterion was introduced as a discrete analogue of the Painlevé test [2], many discrete analogues of Painlevé equations have been proposed and extensively studied [3,10]. Discrete Painlevé equations have been considered as 2-dimensional non-autonomous birational dynamical systems which satisfy this criterion and which have limiting procedures to the (continuous) Painlevé equations. In recent years it was shown by Sakai that all of these (from the point of view of symmetries) are obtained by studying rational surfaces in connection with extended affine Weyl groups [11].
On the other hand, recently Kajiwara et al (KNY) 
[6] have proposed a 
birational representation of the extended Weyl groups
on the field of rational functions 
,
which is expected to provide higher order discrete 
Painlevé equations
(however, this representation is
not always faithful, for example it is not faithful
in the case where 
 or 
 equals 
 and
in the case of 
).
In the case of 
 and 
, the actions of the translations can be 
considered to be 2-dimensional non-autonomous discrete dynamical systems
and therefore to correspond to discrete Painlevé equations. 
Special solutions and 
some properties of these equations have been studied by several authors 
[5,8].   
In the case of 
 and 
, the action of the translation was thought
to be a symmetric form of the 
-discrete analogue of Painlevé V equation 
(
-
). 
However, the symmetry 
 does not coincides with any symmetry of 
discrete Painlevé equations in Sakai's list, 
(in the case of 
 and 
,
it coincides with an equation, which is associated with a family of 
 
surfaces and whose symmetry is  
, 
in Sakai's list). 
So it is natural to suspect
that the symmetry might be a subgroup of a larger group associated with 
some family of rational surfaces.
In this paper we show that in the case of 
 and 
 the action
of the translation can be lifted to an automorphism of a family 
of rational surfaces of the type 
,
i.e. surfaces such that the type of the configuration of irreducible 
components of their anti-canonical divisors is 
,  
and therefore that the group of these automorphisms is 
(hence it is not 
-
 by Sakai's classification).
The action can be decomposed into two mappings 
which are conjugate to the 
-
 equation.
It is also shown 
that the subgroup of automorphisms which commute with the original 
translation is isomorphic to 
.